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I've been using SMF for decades. It's free, pretty stable, and I know it like the back of my hand. But it looks antiquated, no matter what theme I try to use. In the war to gain new members, I think this could be killing my forum, so I've been taking notice of the forum software that the various sites I frequent use. Number one, is XenForo. It helps that I like it as well, as it's clean, modern, and has a bunch of features that I could use. But...

 

Making the switch is difficult. Right now, I have zero member participation. It will cost me over $200 just to get the core license, and the add-ons that I want, not to forget looking into a customized theme, because as awesome as the default theme is, there's always a different look that would benefit my site branding better. And if I'm going all in with new software, maybe I should take this opportunity to hire some people to professionally create my branding. After all, looks are always going to be considered before content.

 

While I'm contemplating this transition, I should come up with a list of additions that I will want. Being that my website is an anime and role playing website, one feature I know I'm going to want is sub-accounts. This is a feature that allows members to post as different users (or characters in my specific use-case), which would give a more immersive role playing feel while participating on the site. So far, this is the only extension that's caught my eye.

 

But, I could just stick with SMF. It does mostly what I need, and I have many customization already implemented, perhaps too many. The problem is that while SMF is stable, I don't see it getting a visible face lift anytime soon. The developer team is working on 3.0, but from what I understand, that's all under-the-hood code re-working, making the code base OOP functional versus procedural. Once that happens, I'll loose my ability to hack the guts of the forum, because as much as I try, I just can not wrap my head around OOP coding. Perhaps my brain is too simple to understand something so complicated. Or, maybe I'm just too old anymore, and tired.

 

Maybe I should wait for to implement a transision and start fresh, with a host of new members--assuming I can gather these people from who-knows-where. As it is right now, my forum seems to be a cluttered mess. I've got ancient posts, that I originally thought would have been a good idea, to show how people have role played in the past, but all that did was waste my time, and disorganize my content. I tried to install various gamifications, but I think that just added more clutter as well.

 

And if I do decide to transfer over to a different software, it may be best to just start over from scratch. Having zero active members, means that I could just build a test site on the side, convert that site over to the new software once I have the funding available to purchase the licenesing. So many questions!

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  • Content Team
For now you could get a free demo of Xenforo to get a feel for it. I know you mentioned about starting from scratch but if you don't truly wish to lose all the content on your forum you don't have to worry about it since there is a converter for SMF available for free when you purchase a license. You also have to remember that in order to have updates for any paid software, you'll need to renew your license in the future too so while you're paying over $200 at first for the plugins you want you'll need to have the money for renewal fees in the future. (Of course they're not as expensive as the first time purchase.)
  • Author
That's true. But it only costs $60 per year after that (assuming the price doesn't increase). However, right now even that's too much for me to afford!
Xenforo is worth the upgrade. It can get pricey with addons, but the overall experience on a Xenforo powered forum is better.
  • Moderators
I had a forum on phpBB for two years and it had less than 6k posts and less than 150 members. Just after moving to Xenforo, I managed to build it into 25k posts and 300 members in less than 6 weeks. I always thought software does not make a forum, it is the content. But I learned a lesson. If you haven't invested money on your forum, people will never take you seriously.

I had a forum on phpBB for two years and it had less than 6k posts and less than 150 members. Just after moving to Xenforo, I managed to build it into 25k posts and 300 members in less than 6 weeks. I always thought software does not make a forum, it is the content. But I learned a lesson. If you haven't invested money on your forum, people will never take you seriously.

It's not about investing money. It's about having a site that appeals to your users. Xenforo is way more user friendly, and up to date with technology. I'm glad your community received a boost after the move to Xenforo, congratulations!

  • Administrators

I had a forum on phpBB for two years and it had less than 6k posts and less than 150 members. Just after moving to Xenforo, I managed to build it into 25k posts and 300 members in less than 6 weeks. I always thought software does not make a forum, it is the content. But I learned a lesson. If you haven't invested money on your forum, people will never take you seriously.

Congratulations on hitting 25k posts! Keep up the good work.

 

The software doesn't make the forum, the content, theme and appealing to your user base does. As long as it reasonats with your users, you've done something right.

 

There has been forums that have hit big board status with phpbb and smf, so it's not just the software. Investing money is critical if you want further growth. Especially if you want something bigger and better for your online community.

  • Author

Today's the first day of my vacation, and I've had a chance to relax and take a look at the Demo site. Wow. Do I feel a bit overwhelmed by all the options! I like how I can customize the default look without relying on knowing CSS!

 

A could of things that I really like about the interface from a Member's standpoint, is the automatically expanding post box. Not needing to scroll up/down is really nice. But something I discovered last night, and I'm not to sure many people know about this, but if you quote somebody, and say there are two bits you want to respond separately to, all you have to do is press enter at the discussion point, and XenForo will create a clone-quote box with a separation for you! That's amazing foresight! I thought I'd have to manually put a quote in, but XenForo did it automatically. Needless to say, I'm highly impressed. applauds.

 

Although, when I do finally migrate over to XenForo, I'll miss the adaptability I currently have with TinyPortal. Maybe there's a portal solution that I haven't seen yet, either way, I've got a lot of planning to do, even to migrate my new Primatica role playing forum over to XenForo.

  • Administrators

Today's the first day of my vacation, and I've had a chance to relax and take a look at the Demo site. Wow. Do I feel a bit overwhelmed by all the options! I like how I can customize the default look without relying on knowing CSS!

 

A could of things that I really like about the interface from a Member's standpoint, is the automatically expanding post box. Not needing to scroll up/down is really nice. But something I discovered last night, and I'm not to sure many people know about this, but if you quote somebody, and say there are two bits you want to respond separately to, all you have to do is press enter at the discussion point, and XenForo will create a clone-quote box with a separation for you! That's amazing foresight! I thought I'd have to manually put a quote in, but XenForo did it automatically. Needless to say, I'm highly impressed. applauds.

 

Although, when I do finally migrate over to XenForo, I'll miss the adaptability I currently have with TinyPortal. Maybe there's a portal solution that I haven't seen yet, either way, I've got a lot of planning to do, even to migrate my new Primatica role playing forum over to XenForo.

There’s a lot of portal add ons, although not free, which over great customization. You could also code one yourself using the pages nodes.

  • Moderators

There has been forums that have hit big board status with phpbb and smf, so it's not just the software. Investing money is critical if you want further growth. Especially if you want something bigger and better for your online community.

That's true. I am a part of a forum called Bitcointalk (I am not active though). It is build on SMF and it is the largest forums I have ever seen (apart from Reddit and Quora). Software is just a frame work, it is your niche and content quality that really matters. However, for most of us becoming successful with free software is very difficult. I ran a SMF forum for two years and yet I had less than 50 members and 1000 posts. Two months ago, I moved to Xenforo and now the forum has hit 3k posts.

  • Content Team

That's true. I am a part of a forum called Bitcointalk (I am not active though). It is build on SMF and it is the largest forums I have ever seen (apart from Reddit and Quora). Software is just a frame work, it is your niche and content quality that really matters. However, for most of us becoming successful with free software is very difficult. I ran a SMF forum for two years and yet I had less than 50 members and 1000 posts. Two months ago, I moved to Xenforo and now the forum has hit 3k posts.

I've seen a forum hosted on Proboards that has thousands of members and is quite active. It's a community based around hacking the fan port of Sonic 3 and Knuckles to pc called Sonic 3 Angel Island Revisited. If you put the effort into your forum the software shouldn't matter that much. Though paid scripts usually do have better SEO tools.

  • Moderators

I've seen a forum hosted on Proboards that has thousands of members and is quite active. It's a community based around hacking the fan port of Sonic 3 and Knuckles to pc called Sonic 3 Angel Island Revisited. If you put the effort into your forum the software shouldn't matter that much. Though paid scripts usually do have better SEO tools.

Those most be very old forums, maybe from the era when social apps like tiktok did not exist and video broadcasting was not a thing on Facebook and Instagram. I haven't seen any free hosted or open source forums created in recent times with a huge audience and activities.

  • Author
I don't particularly care about having a massive population on my forum. All I want is like between 5 and 20 people posting one to five posts weekly. I want a community or like minded individuals. I believe, that ultimately, that's what we as forum administrators desire.
  • Author

I finally was able to buy a XenForo license. Now I've gotta wait like two hours to upload?! Saturday nights must be really busy or something, because this is only like 60MB.

 

And thus begins yet another grand, and new adventure!

  • Content Team

Those most be very old forums, maybe from the era when social apps like tiktok did not exist and video broadcasting was not a thing on Facebook and Instagram. I haven't seen any free hosted or open source forums created in recent times with a huge audience and activities.

Actually, it's not as old as you think. It started as a Discord server and moved to a forum lol. The mod came out sometime in the mid 10's.

I finally was able to buy a XenForo license. Now I've gotta wait like two hours to upload?! Saturday nights must be really busy or something, because this is only like 60MB.

 

And thus begins yet another grand, and new adventure!

Awesome I look forward to seeing your community running Xenforo and seeing all the changes it'll bring!

  • Author
It's a lot more complicated to configure than SMF, that's for sure. Like just figuring out how to set up an image banner for the header is giving me a headache! LOL But Aurora looks good!
  • Administrators

It's a lot more complicated to configure than SMF, that's for sure. Like just figuring out how to set up an image banner for the header is giving me a headache! LOL But Aurora looks good!

Style properties, upload the logo, and remove the text logo. The image will then show up.

  • Administrators

I finally was able to buy a XenForo license. Now I've gotta wait like two hours to upload?! Saturday nights must be really busy or something, because this is only like 60MB.

 

And thus begins yet another grand, and new adventure!

Congratulations on purchasing your XF license! I can't wait to see what you're able to do with XF.

  • Author

Style properties, upload the logo, and remove the text logo. The image will then show up.

I think I found the spot. It's kinda confusing because I have like two areas for header. But despite my settings, all I have is this tiny banner. I'm sure I'm missing something:

[ATTACH]1623[/ATTACH]

 

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  • Administrators

You need the link to the site?

https://prismatica.animerpgs.com

It's not really designed for the type of banner you have in mind.

 

If you'd overwrite the settings (in Extra less template), your banner would look like this:

 

[ATTACH type=full" size="2149x884]1625[/ATTACH]

 

 

Back in the day, when the theme was new, the logo was rather small (see archive Admin Junkies)

 

[ATTACH type=full" size="1760x980]1626[/ATTACH]

  • Author
I'd rather not try to force something. And the result doesn't look as appealing to the eye as what I see in my head. I've got a long, steep learning curve ahead of me! LOL

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